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Hi all, Today, I’m embarking upon a fairly strict, low calorie diet.  It consists of the same basic structure every day, with a bunch of options that I can substitute for variety.  I tried this diet about a month ago for nearly 2 weeks, and I had good initial success.  Now I am ready to commit to it, and have given this process a lot of thought. One issue: I have about 50 lbs to lose, and will have to be on this diet for about a year.  And, even after that I will have to stick to a maintenance diet that is fairly similar to the original diet. I am considering the incorporation of occasional, scheduled, structured "cheat" days, where I can be a bit more liberal, but will give me a little relief from the strictly low cal, low fat regimen. Do any of you do cheat days?  How infrequently must they be for you to lose weight?  How crazy do you go?  Any tricks for controlling the "damage"? I realize that, at some point closer to goal, I may have to phase out cheat days altogether.  But for now, I can’t see going for a year without having the occasional off day to look forward to. I’m particiularly interested in hearing from people on low-cal diets, in the same weight range as myself. 165/165/115  Day 1

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi all, Today, I’m embarking upon a fairly strict, low calorie diet.  It consists of the same basic structure every day, with a bunch of options that I can substitute for variety.  I tried this diet about a month ago for nearly 2 weeks, and I had good initial success.  Now I am ready to commit to it, and have given this process a lot of thought. One issue: I have about 50 lbs to lose, and will have to be on this diet for about a year.  And, even after that I will have to stick to a maintenance diet that is fairly similar to the original diet. I am considering the incorporation of occasional, scheduled, structured "cheat" days, where I can be a bit more liberal, but will give me a little relief from the strictly low cal, low fat regimen. Do any of you do cheat days?  How infrequently must they be for you to lose weight?  How crazy do you go?  Any tricks for controlling the "damage"? I realize that, at some point closer to goal, I may have to phase out cheat days altogether.  But for now, I can’t see going for a year without having the occasional off day to look forward to. I’m particiularly interested in hearing from people on low-cal diets, in the same weight range as myself. 165/165/115  Day 1

Welcome "Just You :-) I’ve tried it all, rigid and structured, the concept of a refeed, the secret thrill of a momentary cheat followed by guilt and honestly can’t advise you. What i really think is any decent plan followed faithfully will yield results for a person that does not have some complicating medical or hormonal condition. Your resolve sounds strong. My own experience is that we are in this for a lifelong haul and are bound to color outside the lines from time to time. Go easy on yourself and don’t regard an occasional extra as a cheat. On the other hand don’t make it a habit. Good Luck. Glad to have you aboard. — Diva Fourth year at goal

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Well…the way I see it, you can do one of two things. You can have an entire day of eating whatever you want. Of course, the downside of that is, you’re going to revive your food cravings in full force (maybe–every body is different, but my guess is, that is what’s gonna happen.) OR you can schedule some goodies as part of the entire day’s calories now and then. For example, tonight I ate a Wendy’s double classic hamburger, no cheese. It was 560 calories. But I ate less for breakfast and lunch, so I didn’t go over my total calorie allotment for the day. I rarely eat a hamburger, but maybe once every few months I want one. Sometimes I’ll buy a large white chocolate mousse TCBY 96% fat-free frozen yogurt. They’re yummy and I can make it last 3-4 days, just by having a few tablespoons of yogurt each day. It is enough to satisfy any interest I have in something sweet, and I’m still in control. Also, since that much sugar is liable to trigger cravings, I only do this about once every couple of months or so. I’d advise against anything that feels to you like uncontrolled eating. That’s too much like your pre-diet behavior. I’m thinking you might be better off with a little of a good thing more frequently than a lot of a bad thing now and then. Did that make any sense??? As you progress in your dieting, you’ll find that eating healthy foods will become a habit that you actually won’t want to break. Losing weight and feeling better are so motivating, you probably won’t want to do anything that would come close to sabotaging your diet, IMHO. Cat

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi all, Today, I’m embarking upon a fairly strict, low calorie diet.  It consists of the same basic structure every day, with a bunch of options that I can substitute for variety.  I tried this diet about a month ago for nearly 2 weeks, and I had good initial success.  Now I am ready to commit to it, and have given this process a lot of thought. One issue: I have about 50 lbs to lose, and will have to be on this diet for about a year.  And, even after that I will have to stick to a maintenance diet that is fairly similar to the original diet. I am considering the incorporation of occasional, scheduled, structured "cheat" days, where I can be a bit more liberal, but will give me a little relief from the strictly low cal, low fat regimen. Do any of you do cheat days?  How infrequently must they be for you to lose weight?  How crazy do you go?  Any tricks for controlling the "damage"? I realize that, at some point closer to goal, I may have to phase out cheat days altogether.  But for now, I can’t see going for a year without having the occasional off day to look forward to. I’m particiularly interested in hearing from people on low-cal diets, in the same weight range as myself. 165/165/115  Day 1

Congratulations on making a wise decision. Myself, I am not on any diet that bears anybody’s name and I suspect it is not very low-cal, although I am sure I eat below weight maintenance level. I do however exercise a lot, by walking 2 hrs per day. I have two thoughts. 1. I question whether you need to go for a very low calorie diet. You might actually mess up your body’s metabolism by doing so. You are not *that* fat. I would check it with a qualified doctor and not with diet salesmen. 2. I strongly recommend against cheat days. If you take forbidden foods and cheat, your body will be confused as to what to expect. So you will be craving sinful foods all the time. I gave up on them (sweetened foods and snacks etc) entirely and I no longer want them. I have pringles, chocolates, pastries everywhere in the house and honestly I do not give them any more than a passing thought. I can sit next to my wife when she is eating pringles at 9, and I am just fine. I used to love pringles. But by now I forgot how they taste, almost. Mind you, I do not eat after 6, so it is not like I am very full at 9. I suspect that if I had cheat days and ate that stuff, I would be craving them! So I would avise against it. My feeling is that the concept of cheat days is added to facilitate sales of diets and not for its actual value. Makes it easier to sell diets to obese people addicted to bad eating habits and foods. Besides that, exercise helps a lot to lose weight more quickly and feel good in process. Exercise your muscles, and maybe walk or run or use a treadmill. Do not be discouraged by temporary slowing down of your weight loss. It is normal. Do not let members of your family ruin your dieting. It is normal family dynamics that everyone seems to want to stuff you with food when you go on a diet. Just politely decline. i 223/196/180 Day 59 or so.

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As you progress in your dieting, you’ll find that eating healthy foods will become a habit that you actually won’t want to break. Losing weight and feeling better are so motivating, you probably won’t want to do anything that would come close to sabotaging your diet, IMHO.

You are a mind reader Cat, that’s exactly how I feel. i

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi all, Today, I’m embarking upon a fairly strict, low calorie diet.  It consists of the same basic structure every day, with a bunch of options that I can substitute for variety.  I tried this diet about a month ago for nearly 2 weeks, and I had good initial success.  Now I am ready to commit to it, and have given this process a lot of thought.  One issue: I have about 50 lbs to lose, and will have to be on this diet for about a year.  And, even after that I will have to stick to a maintenance diet that is fairly similar to the original diet.  I am considering the incorporation of occasional, scheduled, structured "cheat" days, where I can be a bit more liberal, but will give me a little relief from the strictly low cal, low fat regimen. Do any of you do cheat days?  How infrequently must they be for you to lose weight?  How crazy do you go?  Any tricks for controlling the "damage"?  I realize that, at some point closer to goal, I may have to phase out cheat days altogether.  But for now, I can’t see going for a year without having the occasional off day to look forward to. I’m particiularly interested in hearing from people on low-cal diets, in the same weight range as myself.  165/165/115  Day 1   Congratulations on making a wise decision. Myself, I am not on any diet that bears anybody’s name and I suspect it is not very low-cal, although I am sure I eat below weight maintenance level. I do however exercise a lot, by walking 2 hrs per day. I have two thoughts. 1. I question whether you need to go for a very low calorie diet. You might actually mess up your body’s metabolism by doing so. You are not *that* fat. I would check it with a qualified doctor and not with diet salesmen.

There was no mention of a very low calorie diet. 2. I strongly recommend against cheat days. If you take forbidden foods and cheat, your body will be confused as to what to expect.

Your body does not get confused. So you will be craving sinful foods all the time.

There’s no such thing as a sinful food. I gave up on them (sweetened foods and snacks etc) entirely and I no longer want them. I have pringles, chocolates, pastries everywhere in the house and honestly I do not give them any more than a passing thought. I can sit next to my wife when she is eating pringles at 9, and I am just fine. I used to love pringles. But by now I forgot how they taste, almost. Mind you, I do not eat after 6, so it is not like I am very full at 9. I suspect that if I had cheat days and ate that stuff, I would be craving them!

How long have you been dieting? My feeling is that the concept of cheat days is added to facilitate sales of diets and not for its actual value. Makes it easier to sell diets to obese people addicted to bad eating habits and foods.

Yes, that’s part of it. But they can actually help some people lose weight faster – do you know what leptin is? Cheat days or refeed days or whatever you want to call them will also make it easier to engage in high intensity exercise while dieting. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – i 223/196/180 Day 59 or so.

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Hi all, Today, I’m embarking upon a fairly strict, low calorie diet.  It

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – consists of the same basic structure every day, with a bunch of options that I can substitute for variety.  I tried this diet about a month ago for nearly 2 weeks, and I had good initial success.  Now I am ready to commit to it, and have given this process a lot of thought.  One issue: I have about 50 lbs to lose, and will have to be on this diet for about a year.  And, even after that I will have to stick to a maintenance diet that is fairly similar to the original diet.  I am considering the incorporation of occasional, scheduled, structured "cheat" days, where I can be a bit more liberal, but will give me a little relief from the strictly low cal, low fat regimen. Do any of you do cheat days?  How infrequently must they be for you to lose weight?  How crazy do you go?  Any tricks for controlling the "damage"?  I realize that, at some point closer to goal, I may have to phase out cheat days altogether.  But for now, I can’t see going for a year without having the occasional off day to look forward to. I’m particiularly interested in hearing from people on low-cal diets, in the same weight range as myself.  165/165/115  Day 1   Congratulations on making a wise decision. Myself, I am not on any diet that bears anybody’s name and I suspect it is not very low-cal, although I am sure I eat below weight maintenance level. I do however exercise a lot, by walking 2 hrs per day. I have two thoughts. 1. I question whether you need to go for a very low calorie diet. You might actually mess up your body’s metabolism by doing so. You are not *that* fat. I would check it with a qualified doctor and not with diet salesmen. There was no mention of a very low calorie diet.

see the line that I underlined above: “Today, I’m embarking upon a fairly strict, low calorie diet.” – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – 2. I strongly recommend against cheat days. If you take forbidden foods and cheat, your body will be confused as to what to expect. Your body does not get confused. So you will be craving sinful foods all the time. There’s no such thing as a sinful food. I gave up on them (sweetened foods and snacks etc) entirely and I no longer want them. I have pringles, chocolates, pastries everywhere in the house and honestly I do not give them any more than a passing thought. I can sit next to my wife when she is eating pringles at 9, and I am just fine. I used to love pringles. But by now I forgot how they taste, almost. Mind you, I do not eat after 6, so it is not like I am very full at 9. I suspect that if I had cheat days and ate that stuff, I would be craving them! How long have you been dieting?

Read the last line of my post… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My feeling is that the concept of cheat days is added to facilitate sales of diets and not for its actual value. Makes it easier to sell diets to obese people addicted to bad eating habits and foods. Yes, that’s part of it. But they can actually help some people lose weight faster – do you know what leptin is? Cheat days or refeed days or whatever you want to call them will also make it easier to engage in high intensity exercise while dieting. i 223/196/180 Day 59 or so.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi all, Today, I’m embarking upon a fairly strict, low calorie diet.  It consists of the same basic structure every day, with a bunch of options that I can substitute for variety.  I tried this diet about a  month ago for nearly 2 weeks, and I had good initial success.   Now I  am ready to commit to it, and have given this process a lot of  thought.  One issue: I have about 50 lbs to lose, and will have to be  on this diet for about a year.  And, even after that I will have to  stick to a maintenance diet that is fairly similar to the original  diet.  I am considering the incorporation of occasional, scheduled,  structured "cheat" days, where I can be a bit more liberal, but will  give me a little relief from the strictly low cal, low fat regimen.  Do any of you do cheat days?  How infrequently must they be for you  to lose weight?  How crazy do you go?  Any tricks for controlling the  "damage"?  I realize that, at some point closer to goal, I may have  to phase out cheat days altogether.  But for now, I can’t see going  for a year without having the occasional off day to look forward to.  I’m particiularly interested in hearing from people on low-cal diets, in the same weight range as myself.  165/165/115  Day 1   Congratulations on making a wise decision. Myself, I am not on any diet that bears anybody’s name and I suspect it is not very low-cal, although I am sure I eat below weight maintenance level. I do however exercise a lot, by walking 2 hrs per day. I have two thoughts. 1. I question whether you need to go for a very low calorie diet. You might actually mess up your body’s metabolism by doing so. You are not *that* fat. I would check it with a qualified doctor and not with diet salesmen. There was no mention of a very low calorie diet. see the line that I underlined above: “Today, I’m embarking upon a fairly strict, low calorie diet.”

Yes, that’s low calorie, as in hypocaloric. That’s how people lose weight. A very low calorie diet, a.k.a. VLCD, is starvation level. a VLCD is always a LCD, but not vice versa. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – 2. I strongly recommend against cheat days. If you take forbidden foods and cheat, your body will be confused as to what to expect. Your body does not get confused. So you will be craving sinful foods all the time. There’s no such thing as a sinful food. I gave up on them (sweetened foods and snacks etc) entirely and I no longer want them. I have pringles, chocolates, pastries everywhere in the house and honestly I do not give them any more than a passing thought. I can sit next to my wife when she is eating pringles at 9, and I am just fine. I used to love pringles. But by now I forgot how they taste, almost. Mind you, I do not eat after 6, so it is not like I am very full at 9. I suspect that if I had cheat days and ate that stuff, I would be craving them! How long have you been dieting? Read the last line of my post…

Yes. It was a rhetorical question. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My feeling is that the concept of cheat days is added to facilitate sales of diets and not for its actual value. Makes it easier to sell diets to obese people addicted to bad eating habits and foods. Yes, that’s part of it. But they can actually help some people lose weight faster – do you know what leptin is? Cheat days or refeed days or  whatever you want to call them will also make it easier to engage in  high intensity exercise while dieting. i 223/196/180 Day 59 or so.

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Don’t cheat atleast not soon.  I cheated last week and I now regreted it.  Just allow your self one indulgence a month.  That is what I plan to do one month from now, but please don’t have a cheat day.  A cheat meal, maybe, but not a cheat day. Good luck

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I am a calorie-counter, following no particular "named" diet plan.  I have periodic cheat meals — and sometimes when I’m on vacation I have several.  They aren’t planned for a particular day.  Instead, if I’m going to a nice restaurant or a party with good food I will often decide to eat what I want for that meal.  (I don’t gorge, but I eat anything I want, have dessert, etc.)  Is this good?  I don’t really know, but some of my reasons are: a) I believe I am eating the way I will need to for life, and I know I will not give these things up for life.  I think good meals with friends are one of life’s finer things.   b) I think what’s important is being able to go right back to the diet the next day.  And I can do that.  Eating this way helps make that second nature. c) I think it may help to keep my metabolism guessing a bit.  I often experience a weight drop after such an occasion.  There’s a fair bit of anecdotal evidence supporting this view. Anyway, I’ve been doing ok with my approach.  I’ve lost 73 lbs. in just over a year. (I am, by the way, a 55-year-old woman.  I am menopausal and hypothyroid.  None of these things help :-) .) Chris 262/189/???

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You don’t say what you are doing for exercise.  You can’t be healthy without exercise.  If you are not exercising, you are going to plateau.  If you are planning to cheat, you are setting yourself up for an emotional downer. Start an exercise routine and don’t be so strict with your eating, just make sure what you eat is nutritious. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi all, Today, I’m embarking upon a fairly strict, low calorie diet.  It consists of the same basic structure every day, with a bunch of options that I can substitute for variety.  I tried this diet about a month ago for nearly 2 weeks, and I had good initial success.  Now I am ready to commit to it, and have given this process a lot of thought. One issue: I have about 50 lbs to lose, and will have to be on this diet for about a year.  And, even after that I will have to stick to a maintenance diet that is fairly similar to the original diet. I am considering the incorporation of occasional, scheduled, structured "cheat" days, where I can be a bit more liberal, but will give me a little relief from the strictly low cal, low fat regimen. Do any of you do cheat days?  How infrequently must they be for you to lose weight?  How crazy do you go?  Any tricks for controlling the "damage"? I realize that, at some point closer to goal, I may have to phase out cheat days altogether.  But for now, I can’t see going for a year without having the occasional off day to look forward to. I’m particiularly interested in hearing from people on low-cal diets, in the same weight range as myself. 165/165/115  Day 1

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Yup, what she said.  Except I’m 38 and have only lost about 45 pounds (so far.)  I think there are other reasons to integrate a cheat meal in a plan, too – psychological ones.  It takes a while to get used to not eating some foods and it helps to say, "I can eat pizza, just not until Sunday." — Wendy – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am a calorie-counter, following no particular "named" diet plan.  I have periodic cheat meals — and sometimes when I’m on vacation I have several.  They aren’t planned for a particular day.  Instead, if I’m going to a nice restaurant or a party with good food I will often decide to eat what I want for that meal.  (I don’t gorge, but I eat anything I want, have dessert, etc.)  Is this good?  I don’t really know, but some of my reasons are: a) I believe I am eating the way I will need to for life, and I know I will not give these things up for life.  I think good meals with friends are one of life’s finer things.   b) I think what’s important is being able to go right back to the diet the next day.  And I can do that.  Eating this way helps make that second nature. c) I think it may help to keep my metabolism guessing a bit.  I often experience a weight drop after such an occasion.  There’s a fair bit of anecdotal evidence supporting this view. Anyway, I’ve been doing ok with my approach.  I’ve lost 73 lbs. in just over a year. (I am, by the way, a 55-year-old woman.  I am menopausal and hypothyroid.  None of these things help :-) .) Chris 262/189/???

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I’ll have to add my "Yup, what they said", too. I have managed to maintain my current weight for quite some time.  Now I’m about 15lbs above my goal but recently added weight training and have seen a 4lb loss the last month. I work those special occasions into my normal eating plan.  Sunday was the family reunion and no way am I going to bypass all those goodies I indulge in once a year.  I didn’t stuff myself but probably hit close to 2500 calories for the day.  This week I’ve just cut back on the calories and the scales show no gain. There are always going to be special occasions such a reunions, birthday parties, dinner with friends, etc.  Just learn to plan for them and jump right back on your program the next day.  If you know such a day is approaching you can cut the calories for a few days in advance.  I don’t have a special cheat day as there are usually events happening to take care of them<g Beverly

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Yup, what she said.  Except I’m 38 and have only lost about 45 pounds (so far.)  I think there are other reasons to integrate a cheat meal in a plan, too – psychological ones.  It takes a while to get used to not eating some foods and it helps to say, "I can eat pizza, just not until Sunday." — Wendy I am a calorie-counter, following no particular "named" diet plan.  I have periodic cheat meals — and sometimes when I’m on vacation I have several.  They aren’t planned for a particular day.  Instead, if I’m going to a nice restaurant or a party with good food I will often decide to eat what I want for that meal.  (I don’t gorge, but I eat anything I want, have dessert, etc.)  Is this good?  I don’t really know, but some of my reasons are: a) I believe I am eating the way I will need to for life, and I know I will not give these things up for life.  I think good meals with friends are one of life’s finer things. b) I think what’s important is being able to go right back to the diet the next day.  And I can do that.  Eating this way helps make that second nature. c) I think it may help to keep my metabolism guessing a bit.  I often experience a weight drop after such an occasion.  There’s a fair bit of anecdotal evidence supporting this view. Anyway, I’ve been doing ok with my approach.  I’ve lost 73 lbs. in just over a year. (I am, by the way, a 55-year-old woman.  I am menopausal and hypothyroid.  None of these things help :-) .) Chris 262/189/???

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Yup, what she said.  Except I’m 38 and have only lost about 45 pounds (so far.)  I think there are other reasons to integrate a cheat meal in a plan, too – psychological ones.  It takes a while to get used to not eating some foods and it helps to say, "I can eat pizza, just not until Sunday." — Wendy

Although nothing on my diet is really a "cheat" I do like to plan so I have enough food left for the rest of the day and don’t wind up mealtime at 3:00 p.m. as I did yesterday. It was tea for six (hours until bedtime)

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Hi all,

Hey you! Are you the me I think you are? One issue: I have about 50 lbs to lose, and will have to be on this diet for about a year.  And, even after that I will have to stick to a maintenance diet that is fairly similar to the original diet.

IME it doesn’t really work to switch to a diet from one day to the next. I usually phase out junk food gradually over a few weeks, replacing it by healthier alternatives, until I am eating more or less what I feel is right. It helps to count calories, although it is a real PITA at first, but you will come to know how much you can have and where the real dangers are. This way, you can easily allow for days with a somewhat higher intake, while on the others you are more strict. I pick either saturday or sunday, since then I am not at work and find it especially hard to keep things strict, so I allow myself a 300 calories extra. Those can be anything from a brownie to pizza or just an extra portion of veggies. I’ve just started my diet, and so far I feel I could keep this up for a longer time. Now if I only would start to lose weight (I am on 1500 calories a day)… Be careful not to go too low with your calories and eat a balanced diet. Having a little sugar and fat seems to work better in the long run than having none at all, especially if you need to keep this up for a year. — — Ilse mom to Olaf (07/15/2002) TTC #2 "What’s the use of brains if you are a girl?" Aletta Jacobs, first Dutch woman to receive a PhD

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Although nothing on my diet is really a "cheat" I do like to plan so I have enough food left for the rest of the day and don’t wind up mealtime at 3:00 p.m. as I did yesterday. It was tea for six (hours until bedtime)

I think the idea of being a "cheat" day is that you aren’t sticking within your calorie budget that day.  For me this might mean I have nachos and a margarita and a dessert with dinner.   Part of what I think a cheat day did for me was to train myself to STOP having every day be a cheat day.  It’s easy to fall off the wagon, what I needed practice to get better at was falling back ON the wagon the day after.  So I planned Sunday cheat days and planned Monday to STOP cheating and the net benefit was that I got better (with practice) at going back to my WOE immediately after it was interrupted. Wendy

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I’ll have to add my "Yup, what they said", too. I have managed to maintain my current weight for quite some time.  Now I’m about 15lbs above my goal but recently added weight training and have seen a 4lb loss the last month.

Good for you Beverly – is this due to doing Curves? janice 233/169/133

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I’ll have to add my "Yup, what they said", too. I have managed to maintain my current weight for quite some time.  Now I’m about 15lbs above my goal but recently added weight training and have seen a 4lb loss the last month. Good for you Beverly – is this due to doing Curves? janice 233/169/133

Yes the weight loss was due to adding the weight exercise.  I was really pleased with the first month’s results.  I lost 4 lbs and 6.25 inches without changing woe.  Now if I would really buckle down and watch the woe I might just get to goal <g Beverly

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Hey you! Are you the me I think you are? Do you think it’s Aula on the Space Coast?  I’m not sure it is. Wendy

No, its not.   If it where – the post would be about burnt steak and other animal products that she’s not used to.  :-) Now, if its dh under her name – that’s aonther thing – but the headers don’t match and the name isn’t all together in lowercase.   ANd after the lesson learned before – I highly doubt they use the same id online.   :-)

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Hey you! Are you the me I think you are?

Do you think it’s Aula on the Space Coast?  I’m not sure it is. Wendy

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Yea Chris – let’s hear it for the older women:) I’m post-menopausal, 58 and on HRt and none of these things have stopped me losing weight if I stick to a sensible and workable WOE. janice 233/169/133 – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – (I am, by the way, a 55-year-old woman.  I am menopausal and hypothyroid.  None of these things help :-) .) Chris 262/189/???

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Part of what I think a cheat day did for me was to train myself to STOP having every day be a cheat day.  It’s easy to fall off the wagon, what I needed practice to get better at was falling back ON the wagon the day after.  So I planned Sunday cheat days and planned Monday to STOP cheating and the net benefit was that I got better (with practice) at going back to my WOE immediately after it was interrupted. Wendy

Certain things I do lend themselves to cheating. Example: I like to have a salad at While Foods with red onion, raisins, tangerines, olives, grated cheese, greens and dressing and sometimes hard boiled egg. That’s fine. If I buy raisins in bulk and take them home to make salad I always exceed an acceptable  amount (and don’t learn from repeated experience)

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" I’d advise against anything that feels to you like uncontrolled eating. That’s too much like your pre-diet behavior. I’m thinking you might be better off with a little of a good thing more frequently than a lot of a bad thing now and then. Did that make any sense???

    Yes, it did actually.  I get what you’re saying…maybe colour outside the lines a little, but don’t let myself get totally outta control. As you progress in your dieting, you’ll find that eating healthy foods will become a habit that you actually won’t want to break. Losing weight and feeling better are so motivating, you probably won’t want to do anything that would come close to sabotaging your diet, IMHO.

    Yes, I experienced this when I first tried this diet.  When I went back to my original way of eating, I felt kinda sick for a few days.  I actually looked forward to controlling my diet again! Thanks for the input, Just Me

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hey you! Are you the me I think you are? Do you think it’s Aula on the Space Coast?  I’m not sure it is. Wendy No, its not.   If it where – the post would be about burnt steak and other animal products that she’s not used to.  :-)

<g That’s what I thought. Now, if its dh under her name – that’s aonther thing – but the headers don’t match and the name isn’t all together in lowercase.   ANd after the lesson learned before – I highly doubt they use the same id online.   :-)

I cannot see the headers here (not without decent digging into Netscape anyways), but the post didn’t quite agree with what I know she’s doing. Just wanted to be sure before I start making silly remarks… — — Ilse mom to Olaf (07/15/2002) TTC #2 "What’s the use of brains if you are a girl?" Aletta Jacobs, first Dutch woman to receive a PhD

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1. I question whether you need to go for a very low calorie diet. You might actually mess up your body’s metabolism by doing so. You are not *that* fat. I would check it with a qualified doctor and not with diet salesmen.

    Thanks for the warning.   I have tried a myriad of diets: low carb, low fat, vegetarian, and all the fad diets you can remember.  Low calorie seems to be the only thing that works for me.  I am doing ok on this…I don’t feel like I’m in starvation mode. 2. I strongly recommend against cheat days. If you take forbidden foods and cheat, your body will be confused as to what to expect. So you will be craving sinful foods all the time. I gave up on them (sweetened foods and snacks etc) entirely and I no longer want them. I have pringles, chocolates, pastries everywhere in the house and honestly I do not give them any more than a passing thought. I can sit next to my wife when she is eating pringles at 9, and I am just fine. I used to love pringles. But by now I forgot how they taste, almost. Mind you, I do not eat after 6, so it is not like I am very full at 9. I suspect that if I had cheat days and ate that stuff, I would be craving them! So I would avise against it.

    Interesting perspective.  I’m hoping that a cheat day will motivate me to stay on the diet the rest of the time, and get me through the more difficult times.  I’ve also found that when I’ve had a cheat day on other diets, I am satisfied for a long time, and able to get right back on the wagon. Besides that, exercise helps a lot to lose weight more quickly and feel good in process. Exercise your muscles, and maybe walk or run or use a treadmill.

    At this point, I am not focussing much on exercise.  I feel that I want to get into a diet groove, before I tackle the exercise. Do not let members of your family ruin your dieting. It is normal family dynamics that everyone seems to want to stuff you with food when you go on a diet. Just politely decline.

    Luckily my sister is on this with me.  This is very helpful.  She has more trouble with the social pressures than I do.  I have more trouble on weekends, when eating is a form of entertainment for us! Thanks for the input Just Me.

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